I was 24, Breen recalled. Travel the world, the ad said. Adding their names to the Vietnam wall alongside their 58,318 brothers and sisters who made the ultimate sacrifice during the Vietnam War is a fitting tribute to these men and a reminder to all of us that our freedom is oftentimes secured by men and women who serve in silence, said Joe Reagan, director of military and veteran outreach for Wreaths Across America. Prices were available within the past 7 days and start at $363 for one-way flights and $690 for round trip, for the period specified. C $142.86. Flying from Clark AFB to Guam refueling then on to Travis AFB and Home. I extended in Vietnam so that I could get out early. These laddies were tops, in my book. Top Rated Plus. So they tried to keep it light. Despite the approved conditions, the Constellation came down more than 300 feet short of the runway, tearing off the landing gear and sending the aircraft skittering across the runway for about 2,000 feet. I had read everything in sight that was in the pocket of the seat in front of me. Mel Beers ret first sergeant . THe girls (attendants) were great cant saw much for the people of California . Thank you ladies. This was the Tiger "Can-do" Spirit, may it never die. I flew into Sea-Trac on Flying Tiger Airlines from Camh Rhan October 4 , 1971. Some of the now-adult children of those on board speculate that the flight made it, but that passengers were captured, Kirk said. This Is Your Captain by Reyne OShaughnessy, Flying Tiger Memories by Guy Van Herbruggen & Charles Kennedy, Tiger 747 by Guy Van Herbruggen/Charles Kennedy, DC-8 & The Flying Tiger Line by Guy Van Herbruggen & Charles Kennedy. Owing to the complex geopolitical circumstances of the mid to late 20th century, it was also involved in military charters, flying both cargo and troops to conflict zones. )I was engaged and (2.) Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for FLYING TIGER AIRLINES - Patch - MAAG - 45th Transport - Early Vietnam War, #.561 at the best online prices at eBay! Travel the world, the ad said. Capable of lifting 7,000 pounds over a version of the famed DC-3. And he said, I gotta get out of Cornish. The company said it needed flight attendants. Change). Not Flying Tigers but nevertheless an unforgettable flight. They wanted to cry but stifled the impulse. thanks for the ride over and putting up with some of us. $35.00. Based in Norwich, UK. Opens in a new window or tab. By all accounts, the predawn hours of March 15, 1962, were dreary at Adak Naval Air Station in Alaska as a Flying Tiger pilot attempted to make a refueling stop. It hooked up with the Pentagon to carry troops during the Korean War, and by the mid-1960s the airline was flying tens of thousands of soldiers into Vietnam at a time before the U.S. public was paying much attention to the conflict unfolding there. Yes, it was a memorable 4 day flight. By the mid-1960s, it was flying scheduled transpacific all-cargo routes and in the late 1980s, it was acquired by Federal Express. I have no comment for this person, He/she is beyond help. Marilyn Breen was 24 when a girlfriend called her from Japan, bragging that she had gotten a job with a different charter airline and was now sitting in Tokyo having her nails done for $1.50. I was Infantry so I knew I had reason to be worried, but these ladies put us all at ease, as much as was possible .. one of the truly great memories Im thankful to have .. We went out to the airstripvery early in the morning in a vehicle. Veterans Affairs also bought a headstone marker, but even in that, the sense of military courtesy for the family seemed to evaporate, too. Thank you for writing this story, it was way overdue. In the 1980's, the B747-200F series was introduced to the fleet. As a grunt and a company commander from the 1st ID, who had left a few week old daughter and now was headed home to see her and the rest of the finally, I didnt cry but I damn sure slept well on that plane for the first time in 18 months. This exhibition, based on extensive interviews with the key participants of the airlift operations, provides insight into their experiences serving aboard the Freedom Birds. Great article with great info, I remember in 1968 when I went. I gotta go make a life for myself. So, he joined the army.. After I got wounded and my things taken from me in triage, I never saw that slip of paper again. Flying Tiger Attendant The C-47 could fly 7,500 pounds of cargo over a range of 600 miles at 150 miles per hour. Each of the awesome giants flies more than 200,000 pounds of cargo at 575 miles per hour over a 3,500-mile range. For the Vietnam generation of U.S. military veterans, this phrase meant only one thing; the aircraft that brought them home at the end of their tours. Wonderful memories. The flight attendants, although very young themselves, couldnt believe how young the troops were just 17 and 18 in some cases. Although the fledgling Flying Tiger Line was in a precarious financial situation during its early years, it enjoyed extraordinary growth throughout most of the 60's, and eventually emerged as the industry's foremost all-cargo carrier. Color photograph of Flying Tiger Line's Lockheed L-1049H Super Constellation N6921C. AU $157.06. From the beginning, Prescott had a vision for the company: "We're unique, so let's not imitate. 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In quieter moments, men cracked: a lieutenant crying softly in his seat, admitting that his wife had just given birth to a baby he might never see again; a young mans hand shaking as he reached for a cup of milk. Gotoff the jet and was greated by relatives. The Douglas DC-8-63AF N783FT (msn 46003) they flew is, remarkably, still . Know now that I was stunned , medical shock, at suddenly the war down below, behind me , was gone. His 93 U.S. military passengers, three South Vietnamese soldiers and the 11 civilian crew members aboard Flying Tiger Line Flight 739 disappeared on their way from Guam to the Philippines.. Patch , 45th TRANSPORTATION Company FLYING TIGER AIRLINES Vietnam War Patch , s4 | Collectibles, Militaria, Militaria (Date Unknown) | eBay! They were again ordered to Vietnam with Marine Aircraft Group 36 at Phu Bai in 1969 and remained there until their return . The soldiers on Flight 739 were on a mission to do whatever the government told them to do, Kirk said. I think i was numb, both ways. Many of the women continued to fly, either with Tigers or other airlines; more than a few married Tigers pilots and started families. That flight SUCKED., but at least I got out of that chit hole. Tiger Air Flights To Vietnam Tiger Air is one of the few low-cost airlines currently operating in Vietnam. The effort involved more than 1,300 people, 48 aircraft, and eight ships. Nobody wanted to take anybody over there who wasnt coming back.. Great, I had the opportunity to fly w/those ladies one great experience,,! I didnt use Flying Tigers going to and from my two tours in Vietnam, but I DID fly with them in 1963 going home from a two-year stint in Korea. During the "American war," he worked for a CIA contractor, flying unarmed bush planes in Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. 2019 by the San Francisco Airport Commission. Until now, I mostly ignored the efforts of these people (especially the attendants they saw, heard & felt all of it). All rights reserved. Afraid that at any moment a rocket or mortor could could take the jet down. Two of the incidents occurred within the span of one day. By 1949, the Flying Tiger Line had won approval for the first commercial all-cargo route in the U.S., according to an organization devoted to its history. AU $196.32 20% off + AU $5.80 postage. Looking back, I owe them my deep thanks for doing their job so splendidly despite the emotional roller-coaster they must have been on. When I went back in 1970 out of McCord it was on World Airlines. This exhibition is currently available online only. Founded in 1945 by a group of pilots who had flown in World War II, Flying Tigers was Americas first major cargo airline, a seat-of-the-pants operation that hauled freight on Canadian turboprop planes. We began to realize OK, these guys are going off to die, Breen recalled. The aircraft operating the flight was a Lockheed L-1049H Super Constellation registered as N6921C. While in Alaska stopping and refueling I was only 1/2 way through a mountain of pancakes, sausage and eggs smothered with Maple syrup when they announce for all out bound corpsmen to report immediately for departure. But the womens bond outlasted the death of the airline that brought them together. Carrying 50% more cargo than the DC-4 and carrying it 70 miles per hour faster, the company's gross revenues quickly reached the $25-million mark in 1953. with stopovers in Honolulu and Wake Island before arriving in Guam. Ardith, I know we GIs werent always gentlemen, but thank you so very much for all that you and your sister attendants did for us on our flights too and from that hell hole of a war in SAE. Addendum: While in transit on the plane, I had an unusual experience that Id like to share with everyone who reads this. I flew on Trans Carribiean twice from Travis and experienced the feelings described in the piece. from United States First time over in July 68 I was a 29 year old Warrant Officer pilot and flew on a Seaboard World stretch-8 (DC-8-50) that was only a couple of years old but what I remember about the flight was that the plane was dirty and worn and the flight attendants were older than me. Never again! In the Vietnam airlift, Flying Tigers provided strategic flights from the US to numerous military bases throughout the Pacific and Southeast Asia geographic region. The search for Flight 739 sparked one of the largest searches recorded at the time, covering more than 200,000 square miles. Flying Tigers 747. Kimberly is managing editor of FLYING digital. However, Kadena was not able to resupply the galley but the crew got a lot of junk food to hold us over till we got to Tokyo where we were off-loaded again and the plane was serviced. With the DC-8, Flying Tigers was able to inaugurate daily international schedules on routes linking the major markets of the U.S. and Asia. Free shipping for many products! C-47-Flying Tiger relied heavily on the Douglas C-47, the cargo version of the famed DC-3. Wheels up lots of cheering and hope. Few understood the emotional demands they would face. From Singapore, there are three daily direct flights that arrive in Ho Chi Minh City. (It didnt work out. Ninety-three of these were enlisted with the US Army, with the remaining three being from South Vietnam. The aircraft that disappeared was around five years old. We were eventually invited to leave the club and told to not come back Welcome Home from the USAF in Kadena. Flying Tiger Line was the first scheduled cargo airline in the U.S., founded by ex-military pilots in 1945. Not only told to leave, but not to come back. During the Korean War, Tigers planes provided air transport services for personnel and cargo from the west coast of the US to various military bases throughout the Pacific area. A keen amateur photographer, he also recently reached the milestone of flying his 100th sector as a passenger. thank you. Flying Tiger Line 747-200 In April of '75, with the collapse of the South Vietnamese government, Flying Tigers evacuated its own personnel and other refugees from Saigon. It began on Christmas Day, 1950, with Operation STEM, America's Special Technical & Economic Mission, the cover for . they developed an air delivery system that has become the standard by almost Circa 1968-1972 Vietnam War CASI Continental Air Services Inc Shirt Type 1st Officer Wing RARE Item: aircw60001sw. With only six thousand employees around the world, the Flying Tiger Line carried cargo and people to all corners of the planet. America's stake in the Vietnam War didn't begin as late as history books specify. Flew over on Military Transport (think it was a 141) The flight was a complete 3 stooges movie MATS had trouble w/plane. The airliners were not just used to bring the soldiers home, but to fly them into the war zone as well. Flying at 210 miles per hour, the C-54 carried 20,000 pounds of cargo over a 2,000 -- mile range. The training had little to do with hospitality, focusing instead on emergency procedures, like how to ditch a plane after a crash or what to do if the plane drew gunfire. Thank you! Search and rescue operations began promptly, catalyzed by a Liberian tanker ship's reported sighting of an explosion around the time of the plane's disappearance. Forums Index - All forums; Portal page; MSFS 2020; FSX - FS2004 and Earlier Flying Tigers on Airline History JP Airline Fleets 87/88 . It was really a struggle to decide what was right or what was wrong, said Okicich. Originating at Travis Air Force Base, California, the Military Transport was scheduled for fueling stops at Honolulu, Wake Island, Guam, Clark AFB and was to terminate in Saigon. Those ladies had a very important part in the war and they are to be commended for their service. In the years following World War II, a group of 10 American mercenary pilots who flew in China as part of the American Volunteer Groupbetter known as the Flying Tigersbanded together to start a transcontinental airline. Flying Tiger Line flight 739 was a multi-leg charter service that originated at Travis Air Force Base in the US state of California. Within a matter of hours, the carriers losses would get much worse. I also n=mourned those I had lost there who could not return alive but were shipped home to grief stricken families. Pre-Owned. Many flight attendants struggled at first to contain their own emotions. However, these were not military aircraft, but commercial airliners under contract by the U.S. Air Force Military Airlift Command (MAC) and served by civilian crews and flight attendants. $18.00. Was I really in a real war??? After all the things i remember about my viet nam year , i never remembered about the flight to or from . Meanwhile, the flight attendants were becoming like a family. He graduated high school and he could have gone to work in the woods, or he could have joined the military, Kirk, his niece, told FLYING. The first two of these saw delays due to engine maintenance having to be carried out. What Was It Like To Hump The Boonies in Vietnam? She learned then that the Flying Tiger Line, also known as Flying Tigers, specialized in troop transports. Now going to the USA which I had forgotten about. What I do remember is that the plane had a very unpleasant odor and the food was cold. merging Ocean and Sky. this a definitive journey (1961 - 1969), Flying Tigers met the challenge of the jet age with Boeing 707-349C intercontinental jets. Flight 7816, a cargo flight, was enroute from Travis Air Force Base, California to Japan. She has more than 20 years reporting experience, much of it covering aviation and defense issues. MAAG THAILAND . Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. Flying Tiger Line flight 739 was a multi-leg charter service that originated at Travis Air Force Base in the US state of California. Thats funny. Flying may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. (1946-1951), C-46 Gen. -- The Curtis C-46 "Commando" that Flying Tigers flew on supply missions over the Hump during World War II came home for civilian duty, joining Flying Tigers' fleet in 1949. Sixty years later, theres still little trace that the lives of the servicemembers were even lost to the Vietnam War. When I went over in 66, it was courtesy of the USAF on a C-141no flight attendants there, just jump seats and the infantry TOE and basic load down the center of the aircraft. The motto in the beginning was "Anything, Anytime, Anywhere". They saw so much in those soldiers eyes and dealt with some truly emotional issues. Late 1940s PAA Pan American Airways 5 Years of Service Lapel Pin in 10K Gold by Balfour Item: airpi30006b-CON. Entdecke FLIEGENDER TIGER LINE AIRLINES AUFNHER in groer Auswahl Vergleichen Angebote und Preise Online kaufen bei eBay Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! Click on Links for More information About Each Plane. (LogOut/ Offering cheap & budget flights to multiple destinations at Scoot. Photo: The aircraft departed from Andersen AFB in Guam before disappearing over the Western Pacific Ocean. As their deaths did not occur in the Vietnam combat zone, their names were . June 69. (it was the only one on the tarmac) Leaving Bien Hoa at 9:00 P.M on June 25th 1969 and arriving in Oakland CA on June 25th at 9:30 P.M. As the company grew and matured, founder and CEO Robert Prescott did also, both in his younger days as an AVG pilot and later in the role of President of the Flying Tiger Line. Thank you Flight Attendants! It flew at 200 miles per hour, carried 13,000 pounds of cargo and had a range of 900 miles. The search by sea and air was of such an intensity and thoroughness that it can be conclusively stated that debris and survivors from the plane did not exist Consequently, after a full review and consideration of all available evidence, it has been concluded that for an unknown reason the plane plunged into the sea with all its passengers.. Flying Tiger Flight 739 had arrived at Guam at 11:14 GMT from Wake Island. An aspect of nowhere, They cant be forgotten.. Flying Tiger Line was ramping up operations in Vietnam, too, and it's believed maintenance standards dropped as a result of increased demand. Add to Cart. From 1945 to 1989 Flying Tigers management, mechanics, office staff, flight attendants, pilots and crew members worked together to build an airline that became a legend. My birthday is January 1st. (1947 -- 1957), The acquisition of seven DC-6s represented the largest single purchase the airline industry had ever seen. B-747-100 Flying Tigers was the first airline to operate Boeing 747 passenger aircraft converted into efficient air freighters. The team had completed its assigned mission and was waiting to . All rights reserved. (LogOut/ Crossing the international date line was my experience in time travel. One of the seven people on boardthe flight engineerwas killed in a fire that destroyed the aircraft and all its contents. However, radio operators in Guam were unable to contact the flight at this time. Thank you all. When we got ready to land at Bien Hoa airbase the pilot said there would be a slight delay because they were shelling the airfield. A great story, even made me cry, vaguely remembering the trips each way, to and from Vietnam. We all knew that some going would not make it back alive. Sign up | Sign in. Was processed out of the Army at Fort Lewis, got a military standby flight for$11. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739 went missing on March 16, 1962, with 93 U.S. Army soldiers on board. Thanks to all of you that attempted to make our journies more comfortable. SOLD!!! Flying Tigers Line Flight 739, a Lockheed L-1049H, was chartered by the United States military. C $52.00. Stay informed: Sign up for our daily and weekly aviation news digests. What were the life expectancies of soldiers during the Vietnam War? With four Rolls Royce engines that developed 5,700 horsepower, it cruised at 375 miles per hour, carrying up to 60,000 pounds of cargo over a range of 3,000 miles. Circa 1968-1972 Vietnam War CASI Continental Air Services Inc Shirt Type 1st Officer Wing RARE Item: aircw60001sw. Great article and I do so remember that flight and not having even an idea what was waiting for me .. 365 days later. It was a time when the U.S. was quietly increasing its presence in Vietnam, sending advisers and equipment, such as those on Flight 739, to bolster the government of the Republic of Vietnam against the VietCong insurgency. The flight had originated at Travis AFB, Ca. With Tigers, they said, OK, make sure your hair isnt longer than your shoulders, and get on the plane.. Breen went from being gung ho about the war to suspecting the government was lying and thinking the war was a mistake. meets a very pale blue, We all wanted to get home, but wondered if this old crate could get us there. Then all the guys just could not be held down by the stewerdesses and they did not even try to quiet the guys. Top 50 best listed companies in Vietnam. No Longer Available! For the Vietnam generation of U.S. military veterans, this phrase meant only one thing; the aircraft that brought them home at the end of their tours. On October 11, 1983, Flying Tiger Line Flight 9014, a Boeing 747 (N806FT), ran off the runway at Frankfurt International Airport after a cargo pallet broke loose; the three crew and three passengers survived; the aircraft was substantially damaged, but was repaired and returned to service. In January 1953 Flying Tiger intended to lease a 049 from Intercontinental . Related thread from 2010: or Best Offer. The soldiers onboard were flying there not to fight, but to help train South Vietnamese forces. All deals. Touching essay. The big, glamorous airline back then was Pan Am. I have never heard this or found any reference on it, but I knew it would be of interest - AB Flying the Freedom Birds Airlines and the Vietnam War Freedom Bird. The airline had its humble beginnings in Long Beach California with the Budd Conestoga, but by 1969 had upgraded its propeller-driven, piston engine fleet to one consisting entirely of jet freighters. The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is an American long-haul, mid-size widebody, twin-engine jet airliner made by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The flight attendant standing at the top said see you in a year, Ill be wearing the same dress. (1974 -1989). Her byline has appeared in numerous online and print publications including Al Jazeera America, USA Today, ForeignPolicy.com and US News & World Report. The former stewardesses of Tiger Airlines still reminisce about their experiences with those brave soldiers, coming and going to Vietnam a long time ago. Flying Tigers continued to fly military troops and cargo into Vietnam during the war years. I was one of those Men that you brought back to the World. 15 March 1962: Flying Tiger Line Flight 7815/13 was a chartered flight for the Military Air Transport Service (M.A.T.S. . One day in Vietnam, waiting on the tarmac before a homeward-bound flight, she saw men loading body bags into the belly of the plane. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739 went missing on March 16, 1962, with 93 U.S. Army soldiers on board. (1957 - 1967), Flying Tigers acquired the first turbine-powered air-freighter placed in service when it purchased a $55-million fleet of Canadair CL-44s in 1961. Thank you Flying Tiger! The names of those who gave their lives and who remain missing are inscribed here so that they will be said aloud and their memory will live on.. Remember the pungent fish smell and heat as we deplaned. In the hours after the Constellations takeoff from Guam, witnesses on a ship offered potential clues. Her sentiments are echoed by Judy Meyer, who flew for United Air Lines, It was some of the best flying I ever did. Although these women were an integral part of the Vietnam War experience, their contributions are largely unknown outside of the veteran community. In 1969, during the Vietnam War, a 21-year-old Seattle woman saw a job ad for a California cargo airline called the Flying Tiger Line that had a large presence in San Francisco. For some the experience changed their political beliefs, although they tried to keep politics off the plane. for the first time, when I read this article, I remembered the cheer that went up spontaneously when we pulled up to about 10,000 feet and realized we were safety out of rocket/mortar danger and headed for home. The airline also played a major role in the construction of the Distant Early Warning Line, flying equipment to remote outposts in northern Canada and Alaska. With this plane's nose-loading capabilities, Flying Tigers accommodated even more challenging air freight combinations in size, shape and quantity. The women say its what helped them keep their sanity, a support network that allowed them to face the heartbreak of the job as the true cost of the war emerged. Suspected Chinese Spy Balloon Detected Over the U.S. DARPA Narrows Down Liberty Lifter Design Competition, USAF Awards Electra $85M Contract for eSTOL Aircraft, Navy Awards Textron Aviation $113M Contract for Multiengine Trainers, AOPA Names Regional Flight School, Instructor Award Winners, Biden Makes Unprecedented Surprise Trip To Ukraine, NTSB Launches Investigation Into 777s Sudden Loss of Altitude. one of conscious unease. My During her position on the Board she was editor of the Newsletter from May 2007 through March 2014; as well as coordinating the 500 Club Board in the Flying Tigers room at Flight Path Museum and Learning Center. I remember the flight over and appreciate this article about those that made the trip over to Vietnam enjoyable despite apprehension and anxiety most of us 19 year olds carried with us. By this time the airline's personnel had gained such expertise in shipping challenging pieces of freight that the attitude in the industry was, "if Tigers can't move it, nobody can." God bless you all! WELCOME to The FLYING TIGER Antiques & Vintage Historical Artifacts Website!!! The company said it needed flight attendants. I came back on a USAF flight as I was in a 1-1/2 hip spika cast they called it. They recalled that a vapor trail, or some phenomenon resembling one, was first observed overhead and slightly to the north of the tanker and moving in an east to west direction, the ICAO report said. Ninety-three of these were enlisted with the US Army, with the remaining three being from South Vietnam. Various conspiracy theories regarding sabotage have arisen, but the flight's exact fate will likely remain unknown. This was a very good and interesting article. FLYING TIGER AIRLINES - Patch - MAAG - 45th Transport - Early Vietnam War, #.500. The six man recon team was on an observation mission near Fire Support Base Alpine, about six miles east of the Laotian Border. Air sorties searching for clues racked up more than 3,417 flying hours. A true airfreighted with a unique swing-tail design, the CL-44 permitted the straight-in loading of freight no other plane could carry. Pre-Owned. But the flight attendants realized that many were understandably scared. Sponsored. and flew to Portland ,Oregon. Margi has been a Member of the Flying Tigers Club Board of Directors, and served as Club Secretary since May 2007. In addition to the emotional impact, the flight attendants risked physical harm while flying to military bases in an active combat zone. More on this later). 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