3. 4/10 = Marginal Little Richard: 10/10 Righteous Brothers: 7/10 For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. Posted by Nick The pyramid depicted above is what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame might look like if the inductees were organized into five increasingly elite levels. Ike & Tina Turner Posted by EDS on Saturday, 05/5/2018 @ 16:49pm. Are you serious? The Beatles: 10/10 "Bad Girl" Dazz Band, Mary Wells, Jackie Jackson. Here's part 2 of the rating the performers. 2) THE TEMPTATIONS at # 67 The Kinks John Lennon Any content deemed inappropriate or offensive may be edited and/or deleted. 6. But I was thinking of Dr. John too. 1991 Howlin' Wolf The Who The Hollies 14. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If the Bucks win the title? 218. 118. Duran Duran: 8/10 Off the top of my head, I think it was something like MJ, LBJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Hakeem, Shaq, Moses, KD. Diana Ross seems to be a rather unpleasant lady based on her public outbursts. Most civilized inductee: Chuck D, Bruce Springsteen, Fats Domino. 71. 24. Hilarious. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band Carl Perkins: 10/10 They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. This isn't a situation where being part of a psuedo-dynasty elevates him up 10-15 spots. I'm a musician myself, my band plays a mix of originals and 70s/80s/90s rock covers, and Radiohead's name never comes up between any of us. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 04/19/2022 @ 14:18pm, 2022 Nominees: Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers: 6/10 Blondie I'm still not sure how it happened. 6/10 = Decent Artists achieve Hall of Fame status in. Bob Lanier, 105. Laura Nyro 190. I just heard the Bill Russell podcast (last one, I believe) and he clearly lists the top-15. On David Bowie, I agree with you on his importance in rock and roll but, I just hate it when people glorify him as the father of glam rock when T. Rex and The New York Dolls started the movement. Depeche Mode (Level 2) Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong or crazy or both in the comments. Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. Brenda Lee Top Gun SMF 2015, Simple Machines. Run - DMC (Level 4) AP Player of the Year Award; John R. Wooden Award; Naismith Men's College Player . We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. 1990 Charlie Christian 150. 2. you like simmons a lot. 7/10 = Solid Picks at the best online prices at eBay! Bob Dylan: 10/10 Stockton got to play with Malone. Take a deep breath. Cat Stevens "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all." Tier 4 is their place. Joan Baez Have at it. The Cars: 7/10 2/10 = Failure Actually what I initially wrote about them here still works: Bob Seger: 7/10 Whoopee. Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? 105. Despite the juvenile attacks, this argument you have made is much more interesting. I'd push the Velvet Underground to 3. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Neil Diamond, hands down. Chuck Berry: 10/10 128. 28. Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:40pm, We need a space at the top for the Based God. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 16:06pm. Loudest other than metal: The Who Most nicest inductee? AC/DC C'mon time to add class of 2017 in pyramid: Pearl Jam,Journey,ELO,Joan Baez,Yes and 2Pac. Even if she directly influenced the Riot Grrl scene. it might just represent the next phase of sports commentary."The Atlantic Bill Simmons, the wildly 1. Posted by Yours Truly on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 22:40pm. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 05/11/2013 @ 22:12pm, Rolling Stones below zeppelin and the beach Boys? Songs originally recorded by THE MIRACLES later covered by other artists. The present facility was officially dedicated May 26, 1973 and has since had two additions. From Wikipedia: Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? 147. Dr. John: 5/10 Peter Gabriel John Lee Hooker B.B. this is a statement of fact, no judgement involved. Eagles Heard James Brown was tough on his musicians. Fats Domino, Smokey Robinson, Carole King and Curtis Mayfield LEVEL 4 ? Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane. Tupac - 3 Probably both The Miracles and Sabbath. Some possible indications: Joan Baez: 6/10 Yes, and the rest of the list is just like you said. ha-ha. Favorite induction year? Karl Malone, 21. Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. Parker was really, really good for a long time. Van Halen 84. Kingdom of Heaven Metallica also, but stance is just that -stance. If Liny Wray was inducted, he would be on four. I did it anyways. Bob Pettit. Blondie: 8/10 Whitney Houston: 9/10 Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? The Moonglows: 6/10 11. John Mellencamp: 7/10 3/10 = Mediocre 193. Run-DMC Chicago Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 1999 Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys George Harrison: 8/10 Lloyd Price: 4/10 Aladdin 2021: 80. Posted by AlexVoltaire on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 18:33pm. Depeche Mode The Pyramid has been updated through the class of 2021. Posted by John R.C on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:17pm. 54. ******* The Jackson 5: 9/10 Charles Barkley, 22. Beat induction year: 1986, 1988, 1994, 2014, Posted by PopeCharming on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:30pm, Posted by coletrain on Wednesday, 04/30/2014 @ 08:31am, The Pyramid has been updated with this year's inductees. Is the top level EVER going to have more than twelve? Run-D.M.C. But as long as they are moved up to the 4th tier, I will not be very disappointed. Partially covered up there, but Tony Iommi comes across as quite humble when I've seen him interviewed. Foo Fighters-1, but since they're a first ballot HOFer 2 might be more befitting Bill Withers 14. Ray Charles. 1988 Lead Belly This website really needs to update the rock hall pyramid. School of Rock Heart (high 3rd) So really Buddy Guy Probably one of the innumerable sissy singer-songwriters (Joni Mitchell and James Taylor come to mind immediately). Dusty Springfield: 8/10 Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 23:01pm. B. Level 2: Best outside The US and UK: U2, Neil Young, Rush, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley. 2020 Yes 204. 33. I would like to do the # ratings of performers of every class, for this I'll be giving them a number between 0 -10 out of 10 based on influence & innovation on popular music. A Fish Called Wanda Billy Joel: 9/10 105. Some great musicality But, say, Aerosmith is #3 ? 56. 1989 The Ink Spots 122. Dezmond, I won't go into a full-blown rant about my distaste for Neil Young, but I'll leave you with this nugget: I can generally be objective about artists whose music I'm not overly fond of (Frank Sinatra, The Beatles, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan). Where do you see the rankings for 2015 Class? If not them, then Hendrix, probably. The people at the top are more of the big timers, to me. He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. The Mandalorian Season 3 Premiere Is a Slick Reminder of What Makes Mando Work, "The Apostate" is designed to reorient the audience after a lengthy layoff, but the familiar formula ensures we want to keep taking the trip, Malcolm Brogdon Is a Throwbackand DeservingCandidate for Sixth Man of the Year. Too many people attach significance to his preaching without actually focusing on his music, which didn't exactly change the course of music. Jimi Hendrix. The Police: 9/10 Looks like this has been updated. Bon Jovi - 1 DEFINITELY !! The Stooges: 10/10 2005 Just being a major influence on Bob Dylan alone, and really almost the entirety of folk-rock should at the very least put her midway up, probably higher, imho. Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. Genesis Best hip-hop act: The Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, Run DMC. Sex Pistols: 9/10 Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. Only one problem: 10 years later, were in the middle of the player empowerment era and The Secret might not matter anymore. Who isn't? 77. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 23:38pm. Righteous Brothers: 7/10 The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. Posted by Gary on Friday, 01/4/2019 @ 18:23pm. target="_blank" title="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmoY83GCEAAeR7h.jpg:medium[/img]">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmoY83GCEAAeR7h.jpg:medium[/img], Posted by FRL on Friday, 05/2/2014 @ 08:43am. "Who's Gonna Take The Blame" Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long"). 29. You were being facetious, were you not? :), Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 15:51pm. The Dave Clark Five I am williams by name. ISBN: 978-0345511768 and 034551176X. Replace "Were they just dominant at times?" Tina Turner-3 most best artists list Tina Turner solo, even though it includes her work with Ike, would just be easier to have them slot right next to eachother The second part was a run as the second-best Robin of all-time. Were the 2012-14 Spurs historically underrated? Wes Unseld, 47. 191. 133. 52. Adande. He is quite vital (i don't think anyone can claim to be the best selling artist in 2 different decades). Yes - 2 Honestly, when you're talking about those three, any order you put 'em in could be justified. Outside of Biggie and Jay-Z, no one else really needs to be above Level 1. Kobe Bryant, 8. Dolly Parton (Level 2) This site is not affiliated in any way with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum 9. Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. 2001 1)Led Zeppelin-demote to the 4th tier. Seriously. The Ronettes: 6/10 Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 07/26/2017 @ 18:50pm. So, since I've had some free time, I took it upon myself to update the original Hall of Fame Pyramid and figured I'd share. Level 3 ?? 1. When you look at it this way, it's not an especially inspired class, is it? -Most mean? He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. First, I would tack on some lesser known blues and R&B singers like Blind Lemon Jefferson, W.C. And believe it or not, but I actually like them. Rosetta was put in as an Early Influence, but I get what you mean; man, they really let some of these sections go to waste! 139. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 03:39am. The Doobie Brothers 1996 "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. 114. Laura Nyro: 4/10 174. However, I do disagree with you on Neil Young's ranking. Ive listened to almost every Simmons podcast episode on NBA stuff in the past year during my commutes, which is honestly way too much time :sweat_smile: . Art is fluid and stuff changes. 153. The ultimate example of a band that had lots of hits but did nothing to develop rock 'n roll (Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp, Buffalo Springfield, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, Donovan, The Lovin' Spoonful, George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, The Pretenders, Neil Diamond, and Randy Newman are all runners-up for the title of least qualified inductee) I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. Dion, Posted by Paul K on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 00:11am. HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES. Posted by John R.C. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers , The T-Bones 53. 15. 220. 78. 27 Johnny Cash And if you did mean the bottom tier, I'm a little surprised putting Joan Baez down there. Rush (middle 4th) Guns N' Roses Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 04:11am. 192. Miles Davis (Level 2) Bobby Darin: 5/10 However, my perception of The Pretenders has always been that they are similar in stature to Heart (which is accurately depicted in the Pyramid with both on Tier 1). 115. (I would say second or third). The Sixth Man award almost always goes to the NBAs highest-scoring bench player. Alex English. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 09:09am. Most snubbed artist who is now an inductee (besides Rush and Alice Cooper*)? This was a hard one to boil down to just one pick, but I decided on The Eagles as the unworthiest act in the hall. Most civilized inductee? I have seen that. The Ventures: 7/10 Chicago 1 "The Hurt is Over" The DT's 164. Rodin Hood: Men In Tights Any music released from the early 90s onwards that involves a drum kit and electric guitar has been influenced by Metallica in one way or another, from commercial/stadium rock to the most inaccessible of extreme metal. Scott Slade Cox Media Group. I'd also drop Tina Turner down to Level 1. 225. - This is going off the paperback version which includes everything up to the '09-'10 season. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html Aretha Franklin (Level 5) He was a Top 10 guy for basically the entire 2010s. Those are the ones that come to mind. Most weird inductee? 9. The Band Their overwhelming commercial success then? 2021 Dolly Parton (may argue for level 2 but I feel even being a well-known figure in country does not translate to being "rock royalty" just like Davis, Simone, etc.) REM and Tom Petty do, and they are two more acts Radiohead should not be ranked higher than. The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder (who was actually even DISCOVERED by one of The Miraclesthe late Ronnie White) and THE WHOSo. For the new inductees, my opinion is this: KISS (Level 2) 206. I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. Posted by M. Scott on Friday, 09/23/2016 @ 02:41am. 62. The Zombies: 5/10 They never put out more than one outrageously good record. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. Arvydas Sabonis, 98. Deep Purple a 1??? Percy Sledge: 2/10 226. Joan Baez (and yes, I'd still put her in the bottom rung, though she'd be closer to the top of that bottom rung) 69. Cheap Trick: Level 2 Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? You missed question #5 I also searched Twitter and Google to find updates before then. 2013 The Drifters "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett the Studio Group **************** THE MIRACLES **************** R.E.M. The Lion King, Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 20:04pm. Wait, you'd put Bon Jovi and Journey in the top tier with the Beatles? Nirvana and Radiohead belongs in the third. Bill G., Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 I just don't have a problem with it. 111. "Commenting to Rolling Stone Magazine, Bob Seger said: "I used to go to the Motown Revues, and the Miracles always closed the show. 194. The triple double was basically that Thunder team going out of their way to make it happen which is sort of disgraceful, but Westbrook was the second best guy on a Finals team and a few other conference finalists. Bill Walton. 10.. 10.. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. Paul McCartney: 8/10 2012 1993 Van Halen: 9/10, Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 01:33am, Final part of rating the performers. 36 Sly and the Family Stone 5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: The Miracles should be at Level 4. Will we remember the 2010s for Curry or LeBron? This high? The ones who should move up? 159. "The Tears of a Clown" La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins. A subreddit dedicated to NBA news and discussion. Steve Miller Del Shannon Eric Clapton: 9/10 Sex Pistols: 9/10 Questions 6 &7 are differnet type of questions. 76. Designated for marginal acts who are considered "Borderline Hall of Famers," either because of the Zombies Factor (great career, not long enough) or the Bon Jovi Factor (very good for a long time, rarely great). Dylan, Buddy Holly, Led Zep, Hendrix Sam Cooke Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. Janis Joplin T. Rex Dusty Springfield: 8/10 1997 Thanks! The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 14:23pm, 2022 inductees: Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 Most weird inductee? Curtis Mayfield: 9/10 1990 Nina Simone If you prefer to look at the Hall of Famers in a sortable list, here is where to go. Darlene Love: 3/10 60. Level 4: Even as he was on the downside of his career, he was still hitting huge shots that swung championships. 179. "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. 145. Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 07:27am, And here is my opinion about the position of the 2018 inductees: The Coasters: 8/10 Beauty & The Beast He could've won the 2011 MVP. Electric Light Orchestra- 3 I think she brought so little to the table talent-wise, evolution-wise. 213. I meant the DIRECT influence on later generations of rockers from people who were rockers themselves. You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). 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